Batman v Superman: DOJ - ils en parlent...

[NiradZedjati]

[Blablacass]

Quand j'ai vu ça sur Allociné ( ), je me suis demandé si je devais rire ou pleurer parce que 80% des mecs du forums y croient...

[Superbiz]

En même temps, le forum d'Allociné...

[EagleWolf]

Moi qui commençait à m'y faire.. !

[Lil_Suig]

C'est vraiment faire du bruit pour faire du bruit ...

[LMO42]

C'est à se demander si Sup vs Bat a pas battu des records de rumeurs, car à raison de minimum une par jour avec en moyenne 3 ou 4, depuis le comic-con, je n'ose même pas savoir ...

[Lil_Suig]

Surtout que le film est pas avant 2016 maintenant ...

[NiradZedjati]

Interview de Batfleck...

Ben Affleck talks Batman in the latest issue of Playboy, covering everything from the backlash to Zack's Vision. Hit the jump for the excerpt , as well as the link to the full article.

PLAYBOY: When Warner Bros. named you Batman, the internet exploded with hostility. After climbing back from career adversity to win the best picture Oscar for Argo, was your initial reaction more "Not again" or "Screw you"?

AFFLECK: It wasn't either, really. I expected that reaction. Warner Bros. told me, "You should know what you're getting into." They showed me the reactions to other folks who had been cast in these roles. They said this is how it tends to play out initially.

PLAYBOY: What convinced you?

AFFLECK: When they asked if I would be Batman, I told them I didn't see myself in the role and I was going to have to beg off. They said I'd fit well into how they were going to approach the character and asked me to look at what the writer-director, Zack Snyder, was doing. The stuff was incredible.

PLAYBOY: Why?

AFFLECK: It was a unique take on Batman that was still consistent with the mythology. It made me excited. All of a sudden I had a reading of the character. When people see it, it will make more sense than it does now or even than it did to me initially.

PLAYBOY: How will your Batman differ from the others, particularly the one played by Christian Bale?

AFFLECK: I don't want to give away too much, but the idea for the new Batman is to redefine him in a way that doesn't compete with the Bale and Chris Nolan Batman but still exists within the Batman canon. It will be an older and wiser version, particularly as he relates to Henry Cavill's Superman character.

PLAYBOY: How much did the hostile fan reaction bother you?

AFFLECK: I understand I'm at a disadvantage with the internet. If I thought the result would be another Daredevil, I'd be out there picketing myself. [laughs] Why would I make the movie if I didn't think it was going to be good and that I could be good in it?

PLAYBOY: How would you have handled this a decade ago, when things weren't going so well?

AFFLECK: I probably would have been more sensitive. I had less perspective than I do now. I've learned it doesn't matter what people think before a movie comes out; what matters is what people think when they see the movie. There's a lot of noise in the world, and the internet magnifies that energy. My focus is on the actual execution of the movie. Would I have had that perspective 10 years ago? I don't know. The world was different then. It seems odd to me to criticize casting if you haven't read the script and don't know the tone or the take. But the casting of high-profile projects seems to generate negative attention; it's fun to give your thumbs-up or thumbs-down. I've had the luxury recently of doing Argo,The Town and The Company Men, films that didn't have a high profile. You have the luxury of waiting until the movie is released before being judged. I've learned to think, I may succeed or fail, but I'm going to do so on the merit of my own instincts. It's a great business in that way. You do a movie that's successful, you get a little victory lap, and then you start at the beginning; you have to prove yourself all over again. I like that because it motivates you to work harder. I was thrilled with the reception Argo got. It was one of the great professional experiences of my life. I'm thrilled I'm working with David Fincher in Gone Girl and that I'll direct Live by Night, this big, sweeping gangster-epic morality story.

PLAYBOY: You turned around a cold streak playing George Reeves in Hollywoodland, a film about how his acting career was destroyed after he was typecast as Superman. Did you learn any lessons to prepare you to play another caped icon?

AFFLECK: When George Reeves was Super-man you had three TV channels, and that show was iconic. Now there are so many more options. You see actors doing everything from YouTube shorts to big-budget movies. Also, television shows hold you hostage for long periods. My wife was on a show for five years. It's the same with Jon Hamm and Mad Men. It's conceivable you could become hostage to one role. In movies? Look at Robert Downey Jr. He's able to be brilliant in Iron Man and The Avengers, but he can also go do Sherlock Holmes.

PLAYBOY: George Clooney kept a photo of himself as Batman on his office wall as a reminder of what can happen when you take a role for money and fame. If you had such a photo in your office, which movie would you go with?

AFFLECK: I'd probably have two or three. [laughs] It'd be tough to choose. The only movie I actually regret is Daredevil. It just kills me. I love that story, that character, and the fact that it got [frick]ed up the way it did stays with me. Maybe that's part of the motivation to do Batman.

PLAYBOY: Describe what holding that Oscar statue meant to you when Argo won for best picture.

AFFLECK: There had been plenty of moments when I didn't know where I was going to end up. I had been kicked around some and maybe left for dead. I'm not a great believer in awards and the idea that some movie is best, because it's subjective. But standing there at the Academy Awards eased some of the pain and frustration I'd been carrying. I loved movies and felt I knew how to make good ones and had something to offer, but there was a time when I wasn't sure I would be invited to try anymore.

[lilcrew]

A l'heure actuelle, j'ai envie de lui faire confiance. Je garde des réserves mais bon, on verra le résultat final. Je suis plus confiant avec lui qu'avec Gal Galdot en Wonder Woman.

Maintenant, ce qui me fait sourire, c'est que Warner savait pertinemment que le choix n'allait pas plaire. C'est-à-dire qu'ils sont conscients que Ben Affleck ne représente pas vraiment l'idée qu'on peut se faire de Bruce Wayne. Ils n'ont certainement pas préparé Henry Cavill aux critiques à ce point

[Niobé]

Je pense que la Warner s'attendait à ces critiques parce que la plupart des castings annoncés ne font pas souvent l'unanimité auprès des fans. Cavill était le choix de beaucoup de fans depuis qu'on a entendu parler de lui pour la première fois à l'époque du projet Superman Flyby (comme moi par exemple haha) Donc son choix n'a pas soulevé autant de critiques parce qu'on savait déjà qu'il avait le physique pour (meme si les fans de Tom Welling et Christopher Reev n'ont pas été tendres avec lui). Affleck a eu une carrière prolifique ou chacun a pu se faire son idée sur son jeu d'acteur et en plus Daredevil a enfoncé le clou.La Warner s'attendait à des critiques sur le casting d'Affleck mais de cette ampleur là, je pense.

[lilcrew]

Je ne peux pas m'empêcher de penser qu'ils aiment bien ce genre de réactions aussi. Ils prennent le risque de sélectionner des acteurs dont l'ego peut être touché après les critiques hostiles des fans mais au moins, ça crée le buzz pour leur film quoi. C'est comme ça chez Warner

C'est forcément ça de toute façon parce que personne réussira à me faire croire que pour interpréter Bruce Wayne/Batman, il n'y avait pas meilleur choix que Ben Affleck (même chose pour Gal Galdot). Puis il y a certainement d'autres raisons qu'on ne connaîtra jamais réellement.

[NiradZedjati]

Intéressant même si il ne faut en tirer aucune conclusion bien sur...

Matt Damon

"I have seen a picture (Batsuit). It’s excellent. And I’ve talked to him about the story line, and it’s great. Look, I’ve known him for thirty-something years. I’d be the first guy being like, ‘Buddy, what are you doing?’ But I think the movie is going to be great."

[NiradZedjati]

Bonne interview de Michael Uslan, producteur de MOS 2 et des films Batman.

http://www.viddler.com/embed/db7c4054/?f=1

[NiradZedjati]

Snyder parle un peu d'Affleck, et évoque encore l'inspiration du film...

"Ben brings an interesting counterweight to the performance of Henry (Cavill's) Superman. (Affleck) has the experience necessary to paint the picture of an older and more (Advanced) man than Clark Kent, (one) who bears the scars of a seasoned vigilante while (simultaneously) retaining the charm that Bruce Wayne deploys when present in the world."

Snyder also reiterated that the film will be influenced by Frank Miller's The Dark Knight Returns but won't be a direct adaptation.

[EagleWolf]

A la question (posée par Filmstarts) "Qui est le meilleur Batman ?", Morgan Freeman a (donné) cette réponse pleine d'ironie et d'amusement : "On en a parlé avec Will et en fin de compte, je pense que..
Will Arnett sort vainqueur de cet affrontement (...) Ben Affleck ne peut même pas rivaliser !"

[NiradZedjati]

Un peu hors sujet mais j'ai trouvé l'image sympa !

[djlulu]

L'autre jour en lisant La cours des Hiboux, j'ai remarqué le visage de Bruce Wayne plus carré que d'habitude, et son visage a de faux airs de... Ben Affleck!
Essaient-ils de nous habituer?

[Angelus]

Bruce Wayne sera donc bien massif

[Mach]

Oui, par contre il n'aura pas cette coupe de cheveux hein ?! ...

[NiradZedjati]

Oui l'essentiel est déjà bien là..

[NiradZedjati]

Une photo Instagram est sortie sur le forum de SuperHero Hype, en indiquant que ça serait le première "image" de Batfleck (photo d'une photo)...mais bon ça a tout l'air d'un fan made.

[LMO42]

Très "Noël", comme ce qui avait été dit une fois que le masque serait celui du Batou de ce comic précis... Wait and see.

[Superbiz]

N'empêche, si ca s'avère vrai (même si j'en doute), j'aime bien les yeux blancs. C'est quelque chose de propre au comics, qui n'a toujours pas été retranscrit lors des 8 films précédents... Un système de lentilles (comme a Spidey par exemple), ca pourrait le faire... Et je trouve que cette idée permettrait d'encore mieux jouer sur les couleurs, et permettre à Batman d'être encore plus effrayant...
Genre, dans un plan d'une ruelle sombre, seuls ces yeux se distinguent...
(l'image qui suit est celle qui s'approche le plus de ce que je veux dire).

[LMO42]

Tout à fait ! Ce serait top ! En plus ils passent bien sur celui-là (j'avais lu un jour je crois qu'ils ne l'avaient pas mît car ça passait pas)... Perso, pour l'instant, si c'est vrai, je suis content.

[Supernad]

Bien sur que c'est fake. On est en 2014 c'est fini le noir et blanc même les photos d'ovni sont en couleurs.