Man of Steel - Le Topic des dernières News !

[Tapiel]

Il est énorme ce Michael Shannon. Vraiment, je l'adore en tant qu'acteur( il est parfait dans Take Shelter) mais aussi pour son franc-parler.

Sinon, j'en peux plus d'attendre ce film. Je sais qu'il va être fantastique (j'en mettrai ma main à couper), mais deux mois c'est trop long là ....

[Tapiel]

Critique dithyrambique et sans aucun spoiler d'une personne ayant vu le film :

"so my brother works for moving picture company that did some of the special effects for man of steel and his company was doing a lotto screening. my brother won 3 tickets and was gracious enough to take me along. i saw the film last night, and i really won't say anything about it other than...it is [frick]ing awesome. there really is no other adjective to describe the movie other than "awesome." the story is solid (basic origin story like batman begins), the acting is superb (general zod is incredibly badass and henry cavill makes christopher reeves an afterthought), and the action sequences are prob one of the best i've seen in a long time. earlier reviews say they're over the top, and they are, but it wasn't a bad thing. it's got an avengers action feel but more "realistic" if that makes any sense. and surprisingly, there wasn't that much slow motion which i was expecting a lot of given snyder was directing it. and for those who are skeptical or doubtful of snyder, and rightly so, this is easily his best film yet. i think the main reason is because he didn't write it lol. i'm at work so i'll post proof of my screening later. but have no fear, guys, man of steel is going to be the movie to beat this year and there is definitely a new king in super hero film."



"avengers to me had a saturday morning cartoons kind of feel whereas the dark knight was this really dark crime drama. because superman himself cannot exist in the real world, going full out realistic is nearly impossible. however, to goyer's and nolan's credit, man of steel didn't at all feel "cartoony" like avengers. it certainly was more light hearted than dark knight but it still had some grit to it and the relationships between characters felt real."

"i personally have never been a fan of zack snyder. wasn't too impressed with 300, was bored with watchmen, and hated sucker punch. however i've always felt he was one of the best visual directors in film. so when i heard he was directing the movie, my expectations plummeted. but man of steel doesn't at all have a zack snyder feel. it has the snyder visuals, but it has the nolan feel. like i mentioned earlier, a big part of that is the writing, the plot development and the character development which zack is terrible at. so thank heavens he left the writing in the hands of goyer and nolan. so, man of steel is easily, to me, his best film...by far."

"in terms of superheros, i'd say man of steel is probably #2, behind the dark knight. i say #2 because i'm bias and love batman and was never a fan of superman. so i guess that says a lot about this film. if you're a superman fan, this will probably be your favorite movie ever, lol. it's easily better than the dark knight rises, batman begins, avengers, all three iron mans (haven't seen the third but it'll probably be mediocre at best). now how much is it behind the dark knight? in terms of action, man of steel beats it tenfold. it's the best action i've seen in a long time. in terms of story, i think it's better than batman begins in terms of an origin story because it has more weight to it. in terms of acting, well, no one compares to heath's joker even though shannon is pretty badass, but i LOVE cavill as superman much more than i love bale as batman. that dude was born to play superman."

"shannon was pretty riveting. i don't remember zod from the earlier supermans, nor do i know zod from the comic books, so i don't know what type of personality he's supposed to have, but in man of steel he was pretty ruthless, no empathy, kind of psycho. just his demeanor and swag made me think of hitler and stalin. shannon is definitely something to watch."



When asked if Clark would be a journalist and about the romance he had this to say.


"and yeah there is the journalist clark."

"as far as the romance, it was ok. it wasn't deep and tear jerking, a little sappy at times but not too bad.'

"the thing that also annoyed me about snyder was his obsession with slow motion in and out of action scenes which i think came off corny at times. but thankfully, for me at least, man of steel didn't have too much slow mo. it was a lot of fast paced action which was just [frick]ing awesome. but the visuals and coloration of the film were beautiful. and i didn't even see it in imax. it was in a very small theater."


He also speaks about the special effects

"as good as transformers and avengers. though i still think the best special effects i've seen in a movie are in district 9. but man of steel was very good."

EDIT : Amazon a mis en ligne 30 secondes de chacune des musiques de Man of Steel ! Honnêtement, ça me démange d'écouter mais je ne sais pas encore ...

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/ ... s/?a=78536

[NiradZedjati]

Critique dithyrambique et sans aucun spoiler d'une personne ayant vu le film :

"so my brother works for moving picture company that did some of the special effects for man of steel and his company was doing a lotto screening. my brother won 3 tickets and was gracious enough to take me along. i saw the film last night, and i really won't say anything about it other than...it is [frick]ing awesome. there really is no other adjective to describe the movie other than "awesome." the story is solid (basic origin story like batman begins), the acting is superb (general zod is incredibly badass and henry cavill makes christopher reeves an afterthought), and the action sequences are prob one of the best i've seen in a long time. earlier reviews say they're over the top, and they are, but it wasn't a bad thing. it's got an avengers action feel but more "realistic" if that makes any sense. and surprisingly, there wasn't that much slow motion which i was expecting a lot of given snyder was directing it. and for those who are skeptical or doubtful of snyder, and rightly so, this is easily his best film yet. i think the main reason is because he didn't write it lol. i'm at work so i'll post proof of my screening later. but have no fear, guys, man of steel is going to be the movie to beat this year and there is definitely a new king in super hero film."



"avengers to me had a saturday morning cartoons kind of feel whereas the dark knight was this really dark crime drama. because superman himself cannot exist in the real world, going full out realistic is nearly impossible. however, to goyer's and nolan's credit, man of steel didn't at all feel "cartoony" like avengers. it certainly was more light hearted than dark knight but it still had some grit to it and the relationships between characters felt real."

"i personally have never been a fan of zack snyder. wasn't too impressed with 300, was bored with watchmen, and hated sucker punch. however i've always felt he was one of the best visual directors in film. so when i heard he was directing the movie, my expectations plummeted. but man of steel doesn't at all have a zack snyder feel. it has the snyder visuals, but it has the nolan feel. like i mentioned earlier, a big part of that is the writing, the plot development and the character development which zack is terrible at. so thank heavens he left the writing in the hands of goyer and nolan. so, man of steel is easily, to me, his best film...by far."

"in terms of superheros, i'd say man of steel is probably #2, behind the dark knight. i say #2 because i'm bias and love batman and was never a fan of superman. so i guess that says a lot about this film. if you're a superman fan, this will probably be your favorite movie ever, lol. it's easily better than the dark knight rises, batman begins, avengers, all three iron mans (haven't seen the third but it'll probably be mediocre at best). now how much is it behind the dark knight? in terms of action, man of steel beats it tenfold. it's the best action i've seen in a long time. in terms of story, i think it's better than batman begins in terms of an origin story because it has more weight to it. in terms of acting, well, no one compares to heath's joker even though shannon is pretty badass, but i LOVE cavill as superman much more than i love bale as batman. that dude was born to play superman."

"shannon was pretty riveting. i don't remember zod from the earlier supermans, nor do i know zod from the comic books, so i don't know what type of personality he's supposed to have, but in man of steel he was pretty ruthless, no empathy, kind of psycho. just his demeanor and swag made me think of hitler and stalin. shannon is definitely something to watch."



When asked if Clark would be a journalist and about the romance he had this to say.


"and yeah there is the journalist clark."

"as far as the romance, it was ok. it wasn't deep and tear jerking, a little sappy at times but not too bad.'

"the thing that also annoyed me about snyder was his obsession with slow motion in and out of action scenes which i think came off corny at times. but thankfully, for me at least, man of steel didn't have too much slow mo. it was a lot of fast paced action which was just [frick]ing awesome. but the visuals and coloration of the film were beautiful. and i didn't even see it in imax. it was in a very small theater."


He also speaks about the special effects

"as good as transformers and avengers. though i still think the best special effects i've seen in a movie are in district 9. but man of steel was very good."

J'ai lu ça aussi, mais bon je n'ai pas voulu la poster car certains passages m'ont dérangés (non pas par rapport à la critique du film en elle même mais par rapport au mode opératoire) car dire par exemple qu'Iron Man 3 sera médiocre en avouant ne pas avoir vu le film ça ne fait pas très sérieux...je me suis déja plain de ceux qui descendaient MOS avant de l'avoir vu, je n'aime pas qu'on fasse la même chose à d'autres films aussi.

[Tapiel]

J'ai lu ça aussi, mais bon je n'ai pas voulu la poster car certains passages m'ont dérangés (non pas par rapport à la critique du film en elle même mais par rapport au mode opératoire) car dire par exemple qu'Iron Man 3 sera médiocre en avouant ne pas avoir vu le film ça ne fait pas très sérieux...je me suis déja plain de ceux qui descendaient MOS avant de l'avoir vu, je n'aime pas qu'on fasse la même chose à d'autres films aussi.

Je n'ai pas du tout apprécié également. De même, ce qui a été dit sur Avengers est légèrement abusé. Mais je trouve intéressant de recueillir les avis des gens sur ce film (si vrai ils sont).

[Dyo]

J'ai écouté 3 des extraits mis en ligne et j'aime beaucoup. Zimmer remonte dans mon estime après son boulot que j'ai trouvé bien décevant sur TDKR.

[NiradZedjati]

Sur Avengers oui j'ai trouvé ça un peu too much, mais perso j'aborde un peu dans son sens, mais ce n'est que mon avis bien sûr.

EDIT : Amazon a mis en ligne 30 secondes de chacune des musiques de Man of Steel ! Honnêtement, ça me démange d'écouter mais je ne sais pas encore ...

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/ ... s/?a=78536

voici un condensé des diofférents echantillons sur Youtube :



Y'en a beaucoup que j'apprécie (surtout que j'ai retrouvé le Hans du Dernier Samourai dans une ou deux chansons), mais Tornado à l'air d’être freaking epic !

[Tapiel]

Sur Avengers oui j'ai trouvé ça un peu too much, mais perso j'aborde un peu dans son sens, mais ce n'est que mon avis bien sûr.

Pareillement, mais je trouve que c'est ici déplacé de l'évoquer alors que l'avis doit se concentrer sur Man of Steel.

Bon, je n'ai pas résisté, et énorme coup de coeur pour "Goodbye my son".

J'adore tout pour l'instant, il y a une grande densité émotionnelle derrière. Mais il manque après pour moi le thème épique à souhait, qu'on aura j'espère, puisque ce ne sont que des extraits.

[NiradZedjati]

Tornado pourrait être celui là car il est coupé juste au moment ou débute l'envolée lyrique ! maintenant je vais réécouter car je suis sûr d'avoir raté quelque chose lors de la première écoute.

Sinon voici la nouvelle image dévoilée par Hershey's...



Edit : celles qui retiennent mon attention pour l'instant (en sachant que certaines pistes son indisponibles) :

Sent here for a reason
Goddbye my son
If you love these people
Krypton's last
Tornado
Launch

[Tapiel]

Tu entends une envolée lyrique à la fin de l'extrait ? Au contraire, je trouve que le rythme ralentit. Il n'en reste pas moins que j'apprécie vraiment, et j'ai hâte de l'écouter entièrement.

Pour le thème vraiment épique, je mise surtout sur Flight dont aucun extrait n'a été révélé d'ailleurs. La musique est sûrement associé au décollage de Superman qu'on a pu voir dans le trailer, et se doit d'être vraiment épique( à l'instar de Storm du deuxième trailer). La promotion a d'ailleurs beaucoup insisté sur ce moment fort.

Sinon, mon avis n'a pas changé : Goodbye my son est vraiment magnifique. Tout le reste est très bon également (mention spéciale à If you love these people, et Sent here for a reason).

[NiradZedjati]

On sent qu'il y'aura une envolée lyrique derrière, ça baisse pour mieux remonter. Sinon celle qui me plait beaucoup c'est Krypton's Last, je retrouve cette utilisation du violon que j'ai tant aimé dans Le Dernier Samourai.

Shannon sur Zod

"Well, I have a very different voice than Terence Stamp. When I sat down and talked with Zack [Snyder] about how he wanted me to approach the part, he just said that what was really important to him is that Zod wasn’t just some villain who was full of an arbitrary need to destroy everything. He’s not really actually the villain at all on Krypton. He’s a general. Not general of a country. He’s general of an entire planet. Just an awesome amount of responsibility and pressure. He’s responsible for taking care of that civilization, and for a long time, he was pretty good at it. And then he hit some bumps in the road, and now he’s just desperate to try and fix things up."

[AltioMan]

Launch et If You Love Those People Hans Zimmer, quel maître ! Mais pour l'instant je suis quand même un peu déçu, j'espère vraiment que les extraits ne sont pas représentatifs de la BO finale !

[Tapiel]

Ca commence à être répétitif les informations données par les acteurs et plus largement l'équipe du film. On a fait le tour. A partir de maintenant, je pense qu'il n'y aura plus grand chose d'intéressant dans les interviews, mis à part pour des acteurs/actrices qui se sont montrés discrets à l'instar de Russel Crowe, Kevin Costner ou encore Amy Adams.

[NiradZedjati]

C'est normal de retrouver les mêmes éléments de langage un peu partout dans les interviews, ça fait partie de la promo', et puis tout le monde n'est pas comme nous à scruter toutes les interviews et toutes les news qui concernent MOS, là ils essaient de ratisser large en multipliant les sorties dans la presse (ils y'aura aussi un dossier spécial dans SFX puisque MOS fera la couverture de l'édition du mois de mai).

[NiradZedjati]

Comme prévu MOS fait couv' de SFX (mai)...

Director Zack Snyder talks about the casting process to find their Man of Steel and admits that Henry Cavill was a finalist but not necessarily a front runner until the day he came and tried on [the old Christopher Reeve] Superman costume.

Zack Snyder: "I don't even know the total number [of actual contenders for the Superman role], but a hundred, at least, in the first stages. Then it got serious and we got it down to about twenty guys and then ten and then five. We'd always had Henry on our list. He probably had a couple of guys to beat but then he came in and it was like oh my God, he's so Supermanish it's crazy"

Producer Deborah Snyder talks about where the re-imagined Superman suit in Man of Steel gets its origin:

Deborah Snyder: "What was important for Zack was that the costume did not come out of nowhere. It had to have a reason. We go to Krypton and see this world where everything had its place. If they're in space he wanted it to feel like a space suit, and he wanted it to feel like the underlayer that they would maybe put armor over. It's also a caped society, so when you go to Krypton he wanted to see variations of this costume. Finally, when Clark finds the costume and puts it on, you've established where it comes from."

Zack on his personal definition of the DC mythos and its myriad of characters.

Zack Snyder: "They truly are purer archetypes. They're literally Biblical. If you get the DC characters right, they can be important, they can be about us. It's not just a romp. That's the fun, for me, of working on this movie. We got that it was important. We weren't apologizing for Superman, which I feel happened in the past. It's Superman, for God's sake. He's a thing to be celebrated."

Sinon premier tweet de Russell Crowe sur MOS, il a été impressionné par Kevin Costner...

[Chocasse]

Mouai, bizarrement il disait pas la même chose sur son robin des bois si je me souviens bien.

[Tapiel]

Ah j'attendais une petite réaction de Russel Crowe. Il a seulement vu quelques scènes ? Ou est-ce simplement une formulation ? Bizarre...

J'aimerais bien avoir son avis sur le film dans son intégralité.

Sinon, rien a retiré encore de ses déclarations, mais promotion oblige(je rejoins ce que tu disais).

[NiradZedjati]

Ah j'attendais une petite réaction de Russel Crowe. Il a seulement vu quelques scènes ? Ou est-ce simplement une formulation ? Bizarre...

J'aimerais bien avoir son avis sur le film dans son intégralité.

Sinon, rien a retiré encore de ses déclarations, mais promotion oblige(je rejoins ce que tu disais).

Je pense qu'il n'a pas encore vu le film dans sa totalité, c'est pour ça qu'il a dit "few scenes lately" (il devait être occupé par les différents tournages de films).

[NiradZedjati]

Une photo promo utilisant la statue à taille réelle de Cavill...

[Tapiel]

Shannon invité à faire une comparaison entre les deux projets auxquels il a participé :

Well, I’ve seen “Man of Steel” and I’ve seen “Iceman,” and I’m proud of both of them. “Man of Steel” is a very exhilarating movie to watch. It’s a very powerful film. It also has surprising gravity to it. It’s definitely intended to be hugely entertaining, and I feel it is. It’s not completely without some subtext or moral, but I don’t know if I can say that I am more or less proud of one or the other. They’re very different processes.

“Iceman” was a very difficult movie to make. We didn’t have a lot of time, and we didn’t have a lot of money. There were days when we literally didn’t think we’d be able to shoot the whole movie, that we would have to cut scenes out of the movie because we were going to run out of time or run out of money. The fact that when I go in and I sit there and see that it’s all there, it’s something that I’m proud of.

[Tapiel]

Interview vidéo de Cavill :

http://www.vanityfair.com/video/2013/04 ... 8888465001

Et enfin quelques déclarations tirées du SFX magazine que j'ai trouvées intéressantes( de Snyder) :

“If you get it right, that’s the question you’ll be asking everyone else. That should be the question you’re asking Iron Man and Thor. How is it that you feel you can be making a superhero movie in a world where Superman and Batman exist?

“Of course there’ll be comparisons to The Dark Knight,” admits Snyder. “I love the movies that Chris made, but this is a very different movie — the sci-fi aspect, the way we shot it, the character... all those things combined. It’s a much more optimistic movie, in a weird way, just because it’s Superman. The thing that Chris brought to it in its early stages is that ability to take that mythology seriously. Don’t apologise for it. Fucking figure it out, make it work.”


So how do you escape the long red and blue shadow of Richard Donner’s classic? Man Of Steel rewinds to Year Zero.
“In the same way that Superman is the grandaddy of all superhero characters, the Donner movie is the grandaddy of all superhero movies,” says Snyder. “It’s the first blockbuster. The Avengers, all those movies, are all the same thing. Not that that's bad — I think that’s awesome — but what we tried to do is say ‘Okay, we’re just pretending like that movie doesn’t exist’. I know that’s crazy to say, but you have to do that, just for sanity’s sake, otherwise you’d just be making that movie over and over, because it’s so iconographic, from the music to the casting to everything. And so we said ‘Okay, what if they had never made a Superman movie? how would we approach that?’ Hans [Zimmer, composer] had a huge challenge, just for the music alone, because it’s such a fucking score, you know? But Hans has killed it.”

Je l'adore, honnêtement. Ca fait du bien qu'un projet super-héroïque aspire à plus qu'un simple blockbuster. Il a totalement raison. Ce qu'il dit sur Hans est très encourageant, surtout après les extraits qu'on a pus écouter.

[Dyo]

Son "optimistic" me rassure.

[NiradZedjati]

Interview vidéo de Cavill :

http://www.vanityfair.com/video/2013/04 ... 8888465001

Je l'ai vu hier, il me semble d'ailleurs que cette interview a été faite un p'tit bout de temps déjà (vu les allusions concernant le costume, le fait qu'ils disent qu'il a terminé le tournage...etc), ils ont du la mettre au placard puis la sortir ces jours ci.

[Supernad]

nouveau poster pour man of steel

[Dyo]

FLOU, encore flou... Damn it Warner, tu as un hit potentiel entre les mains et tu en saccages les affiches...

[Chocasse]

Sérieux, faudrait penser à virer le stagiaire qui s'occupe des affiches, ça me rappel le désastre de l'affiche finale de TDKR. Pourquoi avoir flouté le visage de Calvill sérieux ... L'effet de vitesse est complètement raté à cause de ce point bien précis, flouté la ville, soit, mais pas le héros principal nondidju ... Surtout qu'il n'a pas une pose très glorieuse ...