BATMAN VS. SUPERMAN (aka SAGE AND MILO & UNTITLED MAN OF STEEL SEQUAL & SUPERMAN VS BATMAN) - May 19, 2014 - Detroit, MI & Los Angeles, CA & Chicago & Yorkville, IL; Details Are only Available By Subscription.. (Posted: July 29, 2013. Revised: March 26, 2014)
Supernad a écrit:Hans Zimmer confirme son retour pour Superman/Batman.
MH: When did you become a fan of Batman, and of comics in general? Was it in the mid-1980s with the arrival of The Dark Knight Returns and Watchmen, two comics you often discuss with such adoration?
ZS: Frank [Miller]‘s book really made me see that comic books, and Batman specifically, could really reflect political and social concepts that I felt like maybe before I hadn’t imagined were possible. Watchmen, of course, I sort of see in the same light — that being, this comic that’s able to shed light on what I would say is our reality, but do it through the sort of metaphor and mythology of comic books, right?
For me, that’s really what The Dark Knight Returns did as well. When I read it, I felt like — of course I knew who Batman was and I was familiar with him as a comic book hero — but it was that book that made me say, “Gosh, you know this could be an amazing film.” At the time, I was just starting my college career, but I thought, “Wow this would be a cool movie!” I wasn’t sure exactly how that would manifest itself, but you know you dream when you’re a kid and you’re in college, “God, if one day I could make a Batman movie, that would be awesome!”
The reality of course is another thing, but it’s kind of amazing that it’s worked out as it has. You know, that’s the thing that you’ve just gotta be super-grateful for, and at the same time you’ve gotta take these opportunities. I think, in my mind — I don’t want to say make the most of it, but in a way you really have to accept these challenges and really try and realize those [opportunities]… Because, the things you thought when you first read them, you try to recapture those feelings. I always say that about Watchmen, when I first read it I had an emotional response to it, and that’s what I always tried to get at when I made the movie. It was a certain way of feeling, and I feel like that was what I really pursued — those ideas.
And I think those same opportunities exist for Batman and Superman, in the sense that they teach us about ourselves. I think Batman — now after Chris [Nolan]‘s movies and the way we track Batman through his cinematic history — he does have this license to enter our world and be a real character and not a complete cartoon, and he’s able to tell us about the way we live and our society. He moves with us, his morality — I think Superman probably less so, but I think Batman definitely sort of reflects us in a more personal way.
MH: Superman is kind of the ideal of what we’d like to be, and Batman is kind of rooted in what we are. He reflects what we are, so to speak.
ZS: Oh, 100%. And I think that’s at the heart of that, you know.
MH: When you came aboard Man of Steel, were you thinking in the back of your mind, “I could be the guy who gets to reboot Batman on film too!”
ZS: I gotta be honest, it definitely was a thing that… after Man of Steel finished and we started talking about what would be in the next movie, I started subtly mentioning that it would be cool if he faced Batman. In the first meeting, it was like, “Maybe Batman?” Maybe at the end of the second movie, some Kryptonite gets delivered to Bruce Wayne’s house or something. Like in a cryptic way, that’s the first time we see him. But then, once you say it out loud, right? You’re in a story meeting talking about, like, who should [Superman] fight if he fought this giant alien threat Zod who was basically his equal physically, from his planet, fighting on our turf… You know, who to fight next? The problem is, once you say it out loud, then it’s kind of hard to go back, right? Once you say, “What about Batman?” then you realize, “Okay, that’s a cool idea. What else?” I mean, what do you say after that? …But I’m not gonna say at all that when I took the job to do Man of Steel that I did it in a subversive way to get to Batman. I really believe that only after contemplating who could face [Superman] did Batman come into the picture.
MH: This year is the 75th anniversary of the first published Batman story, of course. But when the Man of Steel sequel hits theaters, it’ll be the 75th anniversary of Wonder Woman’s first appearance in comics as well. And this year happens to be the 40th anniversary of Wonder Woman’s first live-action appearance, in the Cathy Lee Crosby TV movie on ABC. And on top of all of that, your “Man of Steel” sequel releases during the 35th anniversary of the first Christopher Reeve Superman film, too. So there’s all of these anniversaries and all of this history coming together around this production. Had you realized how significant the timing of this film was going to be? And that you’d be launching the first movie really showing and firmly establishing the much bigger DC Universe on film at this important time in everyone’s history?
ZS: We just went through Superman’s 75th, and it was very exciting… and to me, it was just really awesome. And the idea of having the Batman 75th and the Wonder Woman 75th together is kind of an amazing thing, too… The thing also that’s really fascinating for me is that, even just in the tests we’ve been doing, the costumes, right? You basically have Batman and Superman — and this is without Ben [Affleck] and Henry [Cavill] in the costumes, but just like the stand-ins, just testing to see what the costumes look like. And you have them standing there and they’re standing in the same shot — and then we have Wonder Woman, you know, all three of them in the same shot. Even just for a test, you really have to go, “Wow, that’s crazy!” Not only is it the first time that I’m seeing them, it’s the first time they’ve ever existed together on screen in a movie. And that’s kind of a huge deal. Even just Batman and Superman standing next to each other… t’s kind of epic. You do sort of sense the weight of the pop culture iconography jumping out of its skin when you’re standing there looking at the two of them and Wonder Woman. It’s crazy. But it’s fun. I mean, I have the first photo, I’ve got it in my archive because I was like, “Okay, I better keep this, it’s gonna be worth something,” [laughs]!
MH: Fans are wondering, because there have been some reports that it could be much later this summer or even next year before the suits are revealed. Can you tell us if we really might have to wait six months to a year to see them, or could it be sooner?
[i]ZS: Unfortunately, I don’t even know the timeline… Because the movie takes place so far from now, it’s hard to know exactly. That all gets tied to marketing and strategies for the movie. It’s not just a free-for-all, which I’d love it to be. Because I take a picture of the suit with my camera– I’m actually staring at one right now in my office. And it’s just massive on my wall in my office and it’s epic, let me tell you! And I’m like, “God, I want to send this to the Internet immediately.” But I know I’m not allowed to [laughs]! I do value the sort of excitement of the way the film is [revealed]… the pieces that are released and sort of trickle out to everybody, and those reveals are exciting milestones for us.
MH: People are always looking for the set photos and things. Feel free to tell fans, “Wait for the official release, it’ll be epic and that’s the way to experience this.” They’ll only get to go through this once, where you see Batman and Superman and Wonder Woman for the first time together like this, and it should be something better than a cheesy picture on an iPhone.
ZS: The one nice thing is that, the schedule is designed carefully so that I don’t know that that’ll be [a problem]– but who knows, these cats are pretty good at getting the drop on us with these photos. But, when we finally do show it, it’s gonna be real fun. And it’s true, you gotta make sure– you’re gonna want the real shot…
Après avoir terminé Man of Steel on a commencé à discuter des personnages qui devaient apparaître dans le second volet. J’ai mentionné subtilement que ce serait cool que Superman affronte Batman. Au premier meeting (avec la production), j’ai dit un truc du genre « pourquoi pas Batman ? ». Peut-être qu’il aurait pu apparaître à la fin de ce second volet, avec un morceau de Kryptonite livré au manoir Wayne ou un truc du genre. Cela aurait pu être la première fois que nous l’aurions aperçu. Mais une fois que vous évoquez l’idée, elle ne veut plus s’en aller.
Vous êtes dans une réunion en parlant de l’histoire de ce nouveau film et vous réfléchissez sur le prochain ennemi de Superman. Qui Superman pourrait-il affronter alors qu’il a vaincu Zod, qui lui est égal sur le plan physique et qui vient de sa planète d’origine ? Vous savez, qui sera le prochain ennemi ? Le problème, c’est que quand vous avez évoqué Batman, il est impossible de revenir en arrière. Vous dites une fois « Pourquoi pas Batman ? » et vous réalisez que c’est une idée plutôt cool. Je veux dire, qu’est ce que vous voulez rajouter après ça ?
Le truc, c’est que c’est aussi fascinant pour moi, jusque dans les test que nous avons réalisé avec les costumes. Vous avez Batman et Superman (sans les acteurs dans les costumes), juste l’un à côté de l’autre. Ils sont là, devant vos yeux et ils sont sur le même plan. De même, le costume de Wonder Woman vient s’ajouter à tout ça. Les trois costumes sur le même plan ! Même pour un screen-test, la première réaction logique est : « Wow, c’est dingue ! » (…) Vous ressentez d’une certaine manière tout le poids de la pop-culture quand vous contemplez ces trois costumes ensemble.
The actress told THR that she just came back from Detroit, where they’re doing camera tests for the highly-anticipated sequel. She said that she filmed a few shots of her feeling the Superman costume and joked that she hadn't had the chance to do the same with the Batman costume.
Mr. Toiles Héroïques a écrit:Ne manque plus que Flash (qui était annoncé comme certain par Variety il y a quelques mois)... à moins que ?
Bref, j'espère que c'est rudement bien ficelé car je sens poindre le syndrome Iron Man 2.
Et dans cinq ans, en interview, Zack Snyder nous sortira : "Dans Batman vs. Superman, nous ne nous sommes pas assez concentrés sur Clark Kent et Superman, blablabla".
NiradZedjati a écrit:je me souviens d'une interview de Cavill il y'a quelques mois ou il avait un peu vendu la méche
Chocasse a écrit:Ya vraiment un gros problème de comm sur ce film. On ne tease pas les caméos, les seconds rôles oui, mais pas les caméos. Pour moi annoncer des rôles au fur et à mesure comme ça sur ce film, ça m'inquiète un peu. J'ai l'impression que le film est écrit au jour le jour, et c'est jamais bon.
Chocasse a écrit:Ya vraiment un gros problème de comm sur ce film. On ne tease pas les caméos, les seconds rôles oui, mais pas les caméos.
NiradZedjati a écrit:Je ne m’inquiète pas du tout, car je reste persuadé que Superman sera la colonne vertébrale de ce film. Donc perso je n'y crois pas aux craintes de voir Sup'/Clark négligé dans le film...
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